Geometric Warnings

When asked which warnings were most important to manage, many of our Ideate Software beta testers indicated those listed below, which relate to the geometric relationship between modeled Revit elements.

Some examples of these warning types include:

Wall, Ceiling, or Floor Overlap Warnings

These ‘overlap’ warnings can indicate a complete or partial overlap between one or more elements. Even when a wall is (accidentally) duplicated in the same place, the warning type will be ‘overlap’ and not the ‘identical instances’ warning. The consequence of not resolving these warnings will be an incorrect quantity takeoff and may result in unexpected conditions when viewed in 3d views. Additionally, wall/ceiling/floor hosting problems could occur if elements are inadvertently hosted to a part that is unintentionally overlapping.

To fix an ‘overlap warning you should either:

Use delete if one of the elements wholly overlaps another.
OR, edit the element boundaries to prevent the overlap
OR, use the join geometry command to clean up floor or ceiling overlapping condition. Use the cut geometry to clean up wall overlap conditions.

How to fix the Revit walls overlap warning

Attached To, But Misses Targets

Like the ‘overlap’ warning noted above, the ‘Highlighted [elements] are attached to, but miss, the highlighted targets” warning has the consequence of incorrectly reporting quantity takeoff information and may result in unintended results in 3D views. In addition to walls, this warning can also apply to beams and columns.

Typically this error occurs with the following sequence:

Create a wall, beam, or column.
Attach the element in step #1 to another element such as another wall, beam, column, ceiling, roof.
Move element #1 such that it is no longer able to attach to element #2.

In this situation the geometric shape will be maintained, but Revit is alerting you to the fact that that might not be desired. To address this warning with Ideate Explorer:

Select the warning instances within Ideate Explorer on the Warnings tab.
Use the Revit section box tool to create a 3D view where both can be seen.
OPTIONAL: use the Temporary Hide/Isolate tool to further refine the problem area. These steps are also useful in assessing the result of the ‘fix’.
Decide whether the condition is acceptable or not. If the elements should not have the specified relationship, then use the Detach option from the Revit Modify toolbar.

Resolve the attach but misses target Revit warning with Ideate Explorer

Joined But Do Not Intersect Warnings

The ‘Highlighted elements are joined but do not intersect” is similar to the Attached To, But Misses Targets warning noted above. As the warning implies, Revit believes the elements should be joined, though they do not intersect. This warning is caused when the Join Geometry tool is used to join elements that do not (or no longer) intersect. Join failures can relate to any 3D elements that can be joined.

To address this warning with Ideate Explorer:

Select the warning instances within Ideate Explorer on the Warnings tab.
This will cause the Revit Warning tool to display on the Modify tab.
From within the Revit Warning tool, select Unjoin Elements, as shown.

Unjoin Revit elements via Ideate Explorer

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