If you’ve ever stared long and hard at a section or elevation view in Revit, willing an invisible level line to present itself, then this is the blog post for you. 

I’ll be the first to admit it, I’ve done this.  I’ve created a duplicate level line…I’m so sorry!  I didn’t realize by creating two level lines, at the exact same height, I was:

  • Creating a host of visibility issues, because now the View Range for “Level Above” is unexpectedly 0, making a mess of many views
  • Making it impossible to delete my rogue level because since I created it, several others in the project have created new views based on this level, and it’s not possible to modify the “Associated Level” assignment for a view
  • Producing the very real possibility that many views will be unwittingly deleted

Read on to avoid the wrath of the model manager and learn how to force the level line to appear in your section or elevation view.

In the image at the top of this post, the North Elevation view, is missing a level line as indicated by the dashed red line. While there are several reasons for its invisibility, the most befuddling reason is that the level line is a 3D plane, and that plane does not currently intersect the extents of the North Elevation.  The trick is to find a perpendicular view (East or West elevation) where the level line can be seen.

In the image of the Plan View above, you can see the extents of the 3D Level line (shaded in orange) does not intersect the area representing the North Elevation.  By grip-editing the 3D extents of the level line, you should be able to fix the issue, as shown below.

Ideate XRay is a tool within the IdeateApps collection that helps find and resolve visibility issues, including this level line conundrum. You can download the trial version of IdeateApps here. Imagine not needing to remember the 50+ reasons why a Revit element might be invisible.

To learn more about this issue, including Revit tips on how to modify a level line extents, refer to our Ideate XRay online help topic.

About the Author

Glynnis Patterson, Revit expertGlynnis Patterson, NCARB — Director of Software Development
Glynnis is a Registered Architect and has worked within the BIM industry since 1998. A graduate of Carnegie Mellon University, she has worked as an architect, educator and construction site manager. Glynnis is currently the Director of Software Development Services at Ideate, Inc. and continues to work with AEC clients worldwide, developing, and consulting on solutions to Building Information Modeling challenges. In her spare time Glynnis does volunteer work for ECLC of NJ and Grow it Green Morristown. Follow Glynnis on Twitter.

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Ideate QuickSelect allows you quickly find, select, and manipulate Revit elements. Unlike the Revit project browser, which is a library of objects that can be in your Revit project, Ideate QuickSelect is a model browser that shows you the objects that are there, even those not easily visible within the model, whether in an Active view or anywhere else within your Revit project.

IdeateApps QuickSelect offers an easy and efficient solution to eliminate duplicate types within a project. Without Ideate QuickSelect, this can be quite a challenge, because Revit software doesn’t offer an easier way to find the duplicates, and can lead to error-prone results.

Follow the instructions in this video to see how you can quickly find the duplicate types and swap them out with the right family type. The video features a rectangular duct as an example, but the process is the same for all elements.

About the Author

Vasudha Dixit

Vasudha Dixit – MEP Application Specialist
Vasudha is an MEP Application Specialist at Ideate, Inc. based on San Francisco office. She has a Master’s degree in Energy Engineering from the University of Illinois at Chicago where she specialized in HVAC design, green buildings and energy analysis. Prior to Ideate, she interned at a few multinational companies where she performed finite element analysis for design validation of components. Vasudha provides Revit MEP training and support for various AEC firms




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We wouldn’t be here without our customers. The message may sound cliché, but only because it’s so true, and we at Ideate know it. Our work is interesting and rewarding because of our customers. We thank our customers throughout the year, and we look forward to each December when we bring them together with our team to express our gratitude, celebrate our accomplishments, and have a little fun.

On December 8, 2016, at 11:30 AM at Autodesk Gallery in San Francisco, we are hosting our 6th annual Bay Area Customer Appreciation Party. We will honor our customers and celebrate in the spirit of the word “ideate,” which means to have or form an idea. From the spark of an idea through fruition, we work with customers to strengthen their businesses with building information modeling (BIM).  Those ideas—the new, innovative ways of designing, building, and managing structures—create an energetic atmosphere at Ideate in which we all continue to learn, develop strong relationships, and make a positive difference to our teams, customers, and communities. 

In addition to using BIM software at their own companies, several of our customers have worked to advance the Architecture, Engineering, Construction, and Owner industries by leading discussions at our user group meetings. At the party, Bob Palioca, Ideate president and CEO, will take the opportunity to formally thank them all and present them each with a nice gift.  

And of course, we will have food and fun … Bring your smile, because there will be a photo booth!

For more information about our Bay Area Customer Appreciation Party, contact Qatanna Palioca.

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Will you be at Autodesk University (AU) in Las Vegas this week? 

If so, please visit us at booth #2570.

AU, the premier Autodesk software users event, is an ideal time for you to see a demonstration of IdeateApps, our newest collection of Autodesk Revit add–in tools. Spend a few minutes with us and see how you can use this collection, which we developed to streamline the tasks that daily Revit users perform most often, to:

•    Save time by quickly renumbering elements by selection, path, or auto–update
•    Minimize stress by learning the reasons an element is not visible in a certain view
•    Reduce rework by learning which elements will be deleted along with a selected element
•    Easily select and zoom to elements within the Revit project, template, of family file

Then, take advantage of our special offer to experience the power that Ideate Software offers by getting a three-month trial of the 2017 version of any or all of our products, including IdeateApps, for just $50.00 each. This special offer is good for software purchased with a credit card through December 16, 2016.

We hope to see you here! If you have any questions in the meantime, please contact us at

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 It is probably safe to say Revit models contain a wealth of information. Some of this information can be generated on your own terms, and some of it is automatically generated by Revit itself, but a lot of it is unavailable to the end user, unless they have software that can tap into the Revit API.

One of the issues with having all of this information is having to decide what will be available for viewing, and how it should be composed or used within a Revit project.

For those of you who have had experience with Revisions in Revit, you probably have discovered there are a lot of benefits, and limitations to the revision tools. For example, you have the ability to customize the numbering schemes to match your office standards or client requirements. Clouding and tagging views and sheets is generally easy, unless you are clouding Parent Views with dependent views that have been placed on sheets. Revisions can get a little tricky in these situations!

But one of the biggest limitations to revisions in Revit is the scheduling aspect. As of now, Revit only has the ability to schedule revisions based on Current Revision information, such as Current Revision, and/or Current Revision Date. While this information may be sufficient for some folks, many owners and contractors require a schedule listing all sheets, including each revision, on each sheet. Unfortunately, this type of schedule is simply not native to Revit.

We have had many inquiries from customers looking to try and resolve this issue with Ideate BIMLink. As a result, we created a nice Excel Macro Template that works with our pre-defined links in Ideate BIMLink. As an added bonus, you can insert the Excel files back into Revit as a Sticky schedule, if you so choose. If you make any changes to your revisions, all you have to do is re-export the information back into your Excel Macro template to regenerate the information. Sticky will then recognize the updates, and auto-update, as long as this feature is enabled in your Revit model.

For more information on how to use the Document Issue Records Template and learn some of the basics of Revisions in Revit, be sure to check out our video on this process. If you are an existing Ideate BIMLink customer and would like a copy of the Excel Macro Template, be sure to contact us.

Thank you for reading! For more information on Revit and other Autodesk products, and information on training and consulting for the various products Ideate services, please visit our website.

About the Author

Sash Kazeminejad - ACI, LEED AP AEC Senior Application Specialist Sash is a registered Architect and LEED Accredited Professional who holds a Master of Architecture from Montana State University. Sash’s experience includes project management, BIM management, and design for architectural firms in California, Montana, and Oregon. As an Autodesk Certified Instructor, Sash provides Revit Architecture training and solutions for AECO firms. @sashpdx


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